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'The Pledge of Allegiance' - by Senator John McCain
'As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room.
This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.
One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.
Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.
As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing.
Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.
Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.
One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.
That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could
The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung, one in each corner of the room.
As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.
So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country.'
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'The Pledge of Allegiance' - by Senator John McCain
'As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room.
This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.
One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.
Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.
As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing.
Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.
Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.
One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.
That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could
The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung, one in each corner of the room.
As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.
So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country.'
'I
pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.'
The
pledge of allegiance was developed by socialist minister Frances Bellamy to
indoctrinate children into being loyal servants to the State.
You are expected to promise to obey a man-made article that represents a man-made artifact. You are expected to obey a non-existent nonentity, with no justice, and no liberty for most folks nbsp; Let's talk reality.
The republic is really a dictatorship.
There is no such thing as justice.
Liberty has been abolished over the last 70 years, or more, a bit at a time.
The original pledge did not refer to God at all. That reference was added to help people distinguish between the United Socialist State of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The war of southern secession resulted in a centrally-governed State that does not allow states to secede from the Union.
McCain has already promised to send your children, your grandchildren, their children, and their grandchildren to die at the behest of cannibals. Obama will do likewise.
The war on terror is a war against you.
Doc Ellis 124
Progressive response #1
Doc, that is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have read in a long long time. You want to talk about "liberty"... the mere fact that you have put such gibberish into written form and have signed your name to it with no fear of repercussion is testament to the liberty you so obviously take for granted. You also exercised your freedom of speech in sending an unsolicited opinion to someone whose e-mail you obtained by simple virtue of a club membership, therefore I am going to exercise my right to privacy and request you remove my e-mail from your batch messages. Thank you
Progressive response #2
You are expected to promise to obey a man-made article that represents a man-made artifact. You are expected to obey a non-existent nonentity, with no justice, and no liberty for most folks nbsp; Let's talk reality.
The republic is really a dictatorship.
There is no such thing as justice.
Liberty has been abolished over the last 70 years, or more, a bit at a time.
The original pledge did not refer to God at all. That reference was added to help people distinguish between the United Socialist State of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The war of southern secession resulted in a centrally-governed State that does not allow states to secede from the Union.
McCain has already promised to send your children, your grandchildren, their children, and their grandchildren to die at the behest of cannibals. Obama will do likewise.
The war on terror is a war against you.
Doc Ellis 124
Progressive response #1
Doc, that is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have read in a long long time. You want to talk about "liberty"... the mere fact that you have put such gibberish into written form and have signed your name to it with no fear of repercussion is testament to the liberty you so obviously take for granted. You also exercised your freedom of speech in sending an unsolicited opinion to someone whose e-mail you obtained by simple virtue of a club membership, therefore I am going to exercise my right to privacy and request you remove my e-mail from your batch messages. Thank you
Progressive response #2
Hey, I actually think this did not come
from lions membership (at least not Acton, maybe AD) but it blew me away. Is
this a fellow Lion's member talking? Thank you for voicing your opinion. I a
pretty picky about who I email. I would never mass email a group of club
members- any club for that matter. Gads! Look I won't "reply to all"
because I am that picky. I am however "blank copying" a few. So proud
to be an American!
Progressive response #3
Progressive response #3
Keep
your political trash for yourself. As a naturalized citizen I don't need to be
educated in American history. I came here for the very reasons our Constitution
stands for. I was raised under Hitler's dictatorship. You need to be educated
in different forms of government. You don't know what you are talking about.
Do not reply and remove me from your spam list.
Proud to be an American!
Do not reply and remove me from your spam list.
Proud to be an American!
OK,
guys:
If your name was on the distribution list of the e-mail to which I replied, you got my reply.
When I respond to agitprop, I reply to everyone.
Just because you have what it takes to be a naturalized citizen, does not mean you can't be mistaken about life in your adopted country. Life elsewhere may have been worse than here. Life here has been degraded by people who are supposed to be working for you, not ruling you.
If your name was on the distribution list of the e-mail to which I replied, you got my reply.
When I respond to agitprop, I reply to everyone.
Just because you have what it takes to be a naturalized citizen, does not mean you can't be mistaken about life in your adopted country. Life elsewhere may have been worse than here. Life here has been degraded by people who are supposed to be working for you, not ruling you.
Have you forgotten that The Military Commissions Act of 2006 stripped the right of habeas corpus from all folks, not just terrorism suspects?
Have you forgotten that the President, the Vice President, and many other elected officials lied to you to justify attacks on un-armed men, women and children by armed men and women? Do you really believe that you have as much liberty today as you had when you were naturalized?
Lions: You better take a look at the distribution list to this John McCain's remarks. You will see that it has a lot of names including some Lions. Do you still think that I sent this to you because you're a Lion? Let me ask you something, "What do the letters L,I,ONS mean?"
L=liberty, I=intelligence, ONS= our nation's safety. You have to have the first two to get the last.
Why are you upset that I stand up for your own rights? I believe that utopia is not an option. I believe that you own you. Why do you have a problem with me speaking against propaganda, put out by people advancing the cult of the state? Why are you angry about reading about how little liberty we have? Are you afraid that the truth in which you trusted is a lie?
So, really, why do you have a problem with someone declaring that the pledge of allegiance is a lie?
One: you live in a dictatorship, not a republic. The Soviet Union had a President who was elected, an Assembly that was elected, and Courts, just like the United State with a President, Congress, and Federal Courts. The Soviet Union has been recognized as being a dictatorship. Yet citizens voted these people into power, just as citizens vote people into power over here.
Two: Justice is the restoration to a prior state of property affected by a tort. You know, there is no way to restore you to life if you are murdered. There is no way to restore peace of mind when you discover that you have been robbed. There is no way to make up for the damage inflicted on your ancestors by other ancestors.
Three: Ever since the Constitution was ratified, folks in the US have tried to steer the course of government in their favor at the expense of the liberties of everyone else. For example, four of the first such efforts the Naturalization Act, Alien Friends Act, Alien Enemies Act,and Sedition Act, enacted by the Congress in 1798, all violated the tenth amendment to the Constitution. Today, you and I have less liberty than our counterparts living then. In my lifetime, laws have been passed that deny us the right to self-defense, the right to privacy, the right to possess property.
Four: Socialist Baptist minister Francis Bellamy, devised the pledge in 1892 reportedly to teach obedience to the State as a virtue. If you believe obedience to the State is a virtue, there is nothing I can do for you.
Now I have supported my position. I have not seen any rational or documented responses to my reply.
You have not made your case.
One
more time, if you get my reply to agitprop, your name was on the distribution
list of that agitprop.
Doc Ellis,
proud to be a liberty-oriented LIONS man
Doc Ellis,
proud to be a liberty-oriented LIONS man
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